we have a great spokesperson for immigration, marco rubio who has already made some great statements about our republicans have -- lou: what about ted crews? >> absolutely. lou: do you have to be hispanic to have a bright idea? >> you don't, but i'll tell you what, very good hispanics within the party who can lead the charge and immigration, and they should. >> that's the problem with our party. as the problem with our party. he should not send a latino because i understand you because i'm just like you. that was his problem. right now, you should be able to get to the national organization and promote what we believe as a party. that's how people see us as being real. >> we should build a coalition, but here is a we should do. whenever the president will lay out his grand vision. we should preempt that by having people and others come out and laid out before the american people what our vision is. lou: i want to give them credit because i really believe -- he has really been working on this issue. he's been working on it for most of 2012. and what form that takes at on that yet. but